Comments on: Metrosexual Developers http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/ ASP.NET Developer. ALT.NET Supporter. Pragmatic Programmer. Published Writer. Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:34:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: 1_Woman http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-2137 1_Woman Fri, 04 Jun 2010 06:25:21 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-2137 Hi Kevin From a lady's point of view, your article couldn't be more perfect. Some men really need to wake up. Women appreciate these things and we don't see anything wrong in a man getting his brows done or having a facial. Like you said in the Management bit, "If you can't handle taking care of yourself, what is the logical conclusion a client is going to make about how well you are going to take care of them?". The same goes for women. Whether the guy has long hair or not (ok, personally I wouldn't date a guy with hair longer than mine), he should at least be neat and clean. And the point you made about noticing the black under the nails is SO TRUE. No, even if some women like a "hands-on" man, they don't want a filthy pig who can't wash his hands after hes done working. So anyway, hats off to you. I'm glad a man had the guts to tell other men how they can make themselves better, be it in appearance or people skills, without sounding like Carson from Queer Eye for a Straight Guy. Lots of guys think that if a guy tells them what to wear and how to look good, he must be gay. Those poor guys really need to catch a wake up too! Hi Kevin

From a lady’s point of view, your article couldn’t be more perfect. Some men really need to wake up.
Women appreciate these things and we don’t see anything wrong in a man getting his brows done or having a facial.
Like you said in the Management bit, “If you can’t handle taking care of yourself, what is the logical conclusion a client is going to make about how well you are going to take care of them?”. The same goes for women. Whether the guy has long hair or not (ok, personally I wouldn’t date a guy with hair longer than mine), he should at least be neat and clean. And the point you made about noticing the black under the nails is SO TRUE. No, even if some women like a “hands-on” man, they don’t want a filthy pig who can’t wash his hands after hes done working.
So anyway, hats off to you. I’m glad a man had the guts to tell other men how they can make themselves better, be it in appearance or people skills, without sounding like Carson from Queer Eye for a Straight Guy. Lots of guys think that if a guy tells them what to wear and how to look good, he must be gay. Those poor guys really need to catch a wake up too!

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By: Coyote http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1362 Coyote Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:41:53 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1362 Imagine the looks you'd get if you dressed like the first guy every day. If there's enough stuff falling from the sky, I'll come in wearing a _nice_ overcoat and fedora (I do have long hair, and don't want it to get wet and frizzy). I've been known to add the vest and tie for meetings... Courtesy of the whole "Steampunk" fashion, this stuff is making a comeback. Imagine the looks you’d get if you dressed like the first guy every day. If there’s enough stuff falling from the sky, I’ll come in wearing a _nice_ overcoat and fedora (I do have long hair, and don’t want it to get wet and frizzy). I’ve been known to add the vest and tie for meetings…

Courtesy of the whole “Steampunk” fashion, this stuff is making a comeback.

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By: Dolce&Gabbana Clothes http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1222 Dolce&Gabbana Clothes Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:42:02 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1222 thought it was a good article. You will bring more value as a presentable developer with decent social skills over the stereotypical developer. thought it was a good article. You will bring more value as a presentable developer with decent social skills over the stereotypical developer.

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By: zeolite http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1220 zeolite Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:47:45 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1220 If you have to learn personal hygiene tips from a developers blog you are already beyond help, believe me. What the hell are people thinking in kicking this kind of shitpost on a dotnet news aggregation site? Makes a change from the relentless lightspeed posts i suppose. If you have to learn personal hygiene tips from a developers blog you are already beyond help, believe me. What the hell are people thinking in kicking this kind of shitpost on a dotnet news aggregation site? Makes a change from the relentless lightspeed posts i suppose.

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By: AJ http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1219 AJ Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:40:39 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1219 "Like it or not, management is the next logical step for a software developer." Uh, no, it isn't. That's like saying that the next logical step for an artist is being a museum director. There is nothing wrong with going into management if you feel you would enjoy it in some way, but managers do not code. If they do, they don't code much. You had better like being in meetings and on conference calls, because that is what you'll end up doing. Also, you get to stare at a lot of made-up deadlines on GANTT charts. I'm generalizing here; always a dangerous act. There are exceptions, of course. But the above paragraph describes the lives of most of the software-guy-turned-managers that I've known. And a lot of them end up hating it - choose wisely. "Like it or not, management is the next logical step for a software developer."

Uh, no, it isn’t.

That’s like saying that the next logical step for an artist is being a museum director.

There is nothing wrong with going into management if you feel you would enjoy it in some way, but managers do not code. If they do, they don’t code much. You had better like being in meetings and on conference calls, because that is what you’ll end up doing. Also, you get to stare at a lot of made-up deadlines on GANTT charts.

I’m generalizing here; always a dangerous act. There are exceptions, of course. But the above paragraph describes the lives of most of the software-guy-turned-managers that I’ve known. And a lot of them end up hating it – choose wisely.

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By: Epiphone http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1217 Epiphone Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:38:48 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1217 Developer should carry same weight on their look and their talent. Look for their promotion and talent for their expectation. Developer should carry same weight on their look and their talent. Look for their promotion and talent for their expectation.

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By: VW http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1215 VW Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:12:45 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1215 this is really cool pic mate..Developers dont mind about their look..They just mind about their talent..:) this is really cool pic mate..Developers dont mind about their look..They just mind about their talent..:)

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By: Adam http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1214 Adam Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:45:48 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1214 You speak the truth. I think this all came about because we can be left to our own devices without ever having to speak to a client, or really anyone outside of our development circle. It also helps that management ALLOWS US to wear shorts and a tshirt to work, and although thats great during the summer months, its still totally not the best for business. Even if it doesn't help your career, dressing nice carries over into every part of your life. Whether its first impressions or confidence, dressing with clothes that fit and are appropriate will always be a positive addition in your life - no one will ever look down on you in any situation for dressing well. You speak the truth. I think this all came about because we can be left to our own devices without ever having to speak to a client, or really anyone outside of our development circle. It also helps that management ALLOWS US to wear shorts and a tshirt to work, and although thats great during the summer months, its still totally not the best for business.

Even if it doesn’t help your career, dressing nice carries over into every part of your life. Whether its first impressions or confidence, dressing with clothes that fit and are appropriate will always be a positive addition in your life – no one will ever look down on you in any situation for dressing well.

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By: Justice~! http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1213 Justice~! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:35:42 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1213 Ok, forget the E-mail I just sent. Now you are my favorite *PERSON* ever after this post. Ok, forget the E-mail I just sent. Now you are my favorite *PERSON* ever after this post.

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By: Beau http://www.kevinwilliampang.com/2008/06/22/metrosexual-developers/#comment-1212 Beau Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:34:44 +0000 /post/Metrosexual-Developers.aspx#comment-1212 I think this is a great article, I'll admit, that I was against some of the things listed, but I think I may just give them a shot, like he said, "don't knock 'til you've tried it". I'll share this will my friend who considers "geek" a compliment, and mocks me for actually trying to look nice. :P I think this is a great article, I’ll admit, that I was against some of the things listed, but I think I may just give them a shot, like he said, "don’t knock ’til you’ve tried it". I’ll share this will my friend who considers "geek" a compliment, and mocks me for actually trying to look nice. :P

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